Tuesday, 23 January 2018

Head to Head: Is Anglosphere Feminism really that different from non-Anglosphere Western Feminism?



 

Recently this blog has been engulfed by a riveting debate on a crucial topic: is Anglosphere feminism really distinct from the feminism in non-Anglosphere Western nations? And by extension, is leaving the Anglosphere really the optimal choice for Anglo-American men who still want relationships with women?

Anonymous strongly believes that the countries of non-Anglosphere Western Europe, South America and Asia are at least as bad as those of the Anglosphere:


The Ripper tells us that: "Give me France any day"

Well, I already wrote about France, but, man, I tell you, Mrs Casta is facing a bad backlash for her words. She was hated 20 years agou because she was too much sexy being so young, beautiful and big tits; now they have a political reason to hate her more.

The same faith for based mommy Catherine Deneuve. You don't have idea when the feminist machine catch on you with all its force. The fact that a few real women tell the truth, doesn't mean that the mayority agrees.

Go east, man. (note: the soviet version of feminism was not hatred on men...).

You would think that it's over, that the sitaution couldn't get worse, right? No, we have the Expat Phil that starts on digging shit.

Europe mainland? srsly?

France is described up.

Sweden is the feminists' hornets' nest, they were the first to cimininalize the customer of whores and right now the govt is making casual sex a crime unless you sign a contract with the girl/woman. The cuck governor of sweden is proud of such a new law.

Norway? Ask Eivind Berge.

Italian courts believe to every possible shit the females say, so the last one is that a pair of cops have been accused of rape by 2 american (!!!) girls even if the messages on phones state differently; they will lose the uniform and risk jail (not that I have any simpathy for the pigs...). If they catch you cheating on your wife, the court will make you lose everything.

In Greece there is the witch hunt against men who buy sex from refugees females. German women balme the misconduct of muslim men against white men patriarchy. Reseved train wagons, reserved swimming pools, free sexual harassment compliants to the cops in the case you don't meet the girl's standards, and so on... Many of them treat you like a sexual object, it happened me with a girl, for whom I was just her fetish; and some turned muslim (like that very same girl I dealt with, and) like the 16 yo girl named Malvina who appeared in KIKA, dating a muslim guy (alt rightists made up a shitstorm because the guy looks "too old for her"... just to keep up with the AOC theme and the cultural imperialism of the USA and UK).

Do you really like to be surrounded by bikini girls whose ass and tits will never been yours? Are you a masochist? That's why I support a forced modest dress code, even more in feminist countries of the west.

Should I go further?

LatinoAmerica? again, srsly? Have you ever considered the helluva bunch of feminist new laws passed everywhere? From Venezuela to Colombia? (so you can't balme communism). And right now that we have the worst pope ever? The black pope bergoglio? a men hater feminist scumbag like never before. Today he advocated for even stricter feminist laws for fight what they call "femicide".
So, if you are a fit, good looking anglo male cunt, don't teach us about how wonderful european women are, because if you can interest to a german or a french girl, you can interest to a texan girl from a conservative rural area too.

Also, pay attention on writing to take care of yourself, because I got the interest of that german girl for something that is the opposite of being fit. It's all about her own standards, brothers. Fat or fit, tall or short, etc... and if she changes her mind, just start on preying your gods, because it will be rape, even years later.

I only agree with you Phil, about the Israel and the Jewish conspirancy. Israeli men are in deep shit like the rest of us, and I don't give a shit if the israeli women at the end want to settle and have kids to fuck up arabs in the numbers because it's a patriotic duty (and that's true, so you have many ppl messing about the jewish conspiracy). They are over 30 years old creeps in the last 3 days of fertility, looking nasty.

James Bond, the best MGTOW is Expat MGTOW (that indeed is not real MGTOW if you still date or are interested in girls, that is something natural and normal), but only in countries where feminism is still not strong, or your assets are enough to make you to have a safe life (examples: philippines and surroundings). Check out the videos of MGTOW Expat, Kris Cantu and friends. But Europe is not an option (at least western europe and places like poland or latvia).

Finally, remember, you all angloamerican patriotic male cunts: this situation it's all your and your own fault only. It started after the 9/11 with the collusion between feminism and imperialism against muslims. If you ever served into an armed force of USA, UK and NATO, you are the source of the problem. Why in most part of muslim countries men didn't commit suicide before the imposition of feminism by the west via the bombs?

Allah Hafiz, brothers.


However, Legal Eagle has much personal experience of these issues from his work as an an international lawyer. I am very interested in the law, since it is now the primary feminist weapon in the Anglosphere. More women than men now graduate from Anglosphere law schools, and law is the cultural template via which feminists rewrite Anglo-American society in their own image


Legal Eagle also considers the distinctive Anglo-Saxon Common Law to be uniquely dangerous to men, marriage and fathers: 


Just wanted to tl-dr the informed points above to sum up in simple terms just WHY the Anglosphere is so measurably different and DANGEROUS for men compared to the non-Anglosphere (West and East) when it comes to marriage, divorce, simple dating, harassment and overall lifestyle and interpersonal relations. I'm an attorney specializing in family law, now working overseas myself with a basis to make the comparison, and this is really all you need to know about the real-life decisions you'll have to make in the Anglosphere versus outside of it:

--- Marriage and having kids are now fundamentally non-viable options in the Anglosphere because of one specific quirk above all in the way the Anglosphere handles divorce: You literally become a slave to the state upon marriage or having a kid in the Anglosphere because at that point, the state has the power to extract your assets without limit in the event of divorce, separation or abuse allegations. Again; ALL of your assets, your savings, earnings, even your work potential, before or after marriage, can be seized from you after you marry or have a child in the Anglosphere, because the US court and civil system gives women and family courts absolute discretion over all your assets and even future earning potential, WITHOUT LIMIT. Now with #metoo, a variant of the same unchecked power has also been placed into the hands of the state (courts), institutions and women with a chip on their shoulder, to bring about complete ruination and financial damage to a man even outside of marriage, due to any hazy allegation of "harassment". All of this is reinforced by the powerful Anglosphere cultural meme of "man = deadbeat".

--- Outside the Anglosphere, especially in old Orthodox and Catholic countries (Mediterranean, France, Latin America, central and East Europe) and most of Asia but yes, also in non-Anglo Protestant lands (Germany, the Benelux region, Scandinavia), the state has no such power over a man after marriage and having a child. Instead he retains full control over his assets, savings and future earnings, and all forms of support payments are strictly capped. By the same token fatherhood is also explicitly supported (hence sharing of custody, paternal support, mediation), and the #metoo hysterics are dampened both by cultural disapproval and by explicit laws and policies that forbid a woman from ruining man's career and reputation through simple allegations. (The defamation laws are also much tougher in the non-Anglosphere, and women making such accusations are harshly punished.)

That's it, the one reason above all why, as this Blog correctly makes clear, the Anglosphere is fundamentally more dangerous than the non-Anglosphere to basic rights especially for men, families and rational women. The state and a wife or ex-wife in the Anglosphere, or even a meddling busybody bureaucrat, has enormous and essentially unlimited power to drain and enslave a man financially. This is why you have to ditch the Anglosphere and set up elsewhere, and this is one area where the MGTOW's are exactly right Simply dating, associating with women and marrying in the Anglosphere literally and tangibly-- not in some abstract way-- expose even a highly skilled, wealthy, upper class men to real risk of improverishment, public humiliation and severe downward mobility in Anglosphere countries.

This is the difficult and painful message that my old law firm, when we were speaking honestly, would convey to clients looking for a "solution" to their concerns about asset exposure to marriage in the US and Canada. If you marry and or have a kid in the English-speaking world, from that point on you have a sword of damocles over your head. It's as simple as that, and again, the MGTOW's are right on here. In fact perversely it's even worse if you're a rich or upper-class man, all your assets, including anything you've inherited can be extracted from you under Anglosphere law. On contrary, this is what someone referred to by the "playboy principle" in the non-Anglosphere-- even very wealthy husbands can never be asked to pay beyond a statutory and low limit as support, which does indeed discourage gold-digging since the "lifestyle standard before divorce" is not a factor.

Just focus on this point and avoid all the distracting issues, because whatever other cultural factors you're considering, these are the ones that affect you directly as an individual, and put you at infinitely greater danger of destitution and disaster in the Anglosphere versus outside it.

And just to throw cold water on any assumptions that "there still must be a way to safely date and marry in the Anglosphere", I'm sorry, but there isn't. Like I said above, domestic and international family law is my legal specialty, what I've done every workday for the past couple decades. I've worked in dozens of US states, several Canadian provinces and then several law and legal translation offices overseas in Europe as well as (in 2016) in Cordoba, Argentina. My law partners and I have seen literally thousands of men in the US and Canada show up in our office, nervously asking about ways to protect their assets in the event of divorce, wondering about "the perfect prenup" or if marrying a religious girl in a religious ceremony, or a foreign girl protects them. (Short answer-- it doesn't, not if you're still living in North America or anywhere in the Anglosphere.) I'm sorry, but if you want to establish a meaningful relationship with a woman, have kids, start a family-- the things fundamental to any society for centuries-- there is now no alternative to becoming an expat outside the Anglo world. None.

The family law policies in the Anglosphere really have become THAT dangerous and perverse, and now with the #metoo hysterics and media push, it's only going to get even worse for men, families and reasonable women in the Anglosphere. I think other posts here have covered why, but if they haven't, here's the tl-dr: it's due to the particularities of Anglo common law (which is we learn from Day One in law school, is a whole different animal from civil statutory law), stare decisis and political/administrative inertia in Anglo legal tradition (feminists claiming female independence while clinging to "helpless wife" assumptions used to justify long term alimony), the oppositional essence of US law, media and culture. And don't think the political system, elections or either US political party will give you relief. For ex., guess who shot down two major attempts at alimony reform in Florida and Alabama, both of which have esp. harsh alimony statutes that hit ex-husbands hard? The foolish pro-alimony white knights were none other than two "conservative" Republicans, Rick Scott and Roy Moore. (The real reason Roy Moore lost the Alabama Senate election is that he imposed permanent alimony payments on a major Alabama publisher who was understandably embittered-- the things you learn working in family law.)

If it wasn't clear already, pre-nups offer very limited protection that's all but useless amidst the full discretion of divorce court judges, esp. after kids are born but even before-- even my own ex-law firm partners virtually laugh when husbands request them now, they simply don't help. Not "marrying a good girl" or "marrying a Christian or religious girl". Here's a nasty stat for you: the biggest jump in divorce, esp. nasty expensive divorces, in past decade has been among Christian and esp. Mormon women (!). Not marrying a foreign woman in the US-- once under US law, she'll have the same power to ruin you as an American woman, and fall under the same poisonous "deadbeat man" Anglosphere cultural influences that push other "nice women of good character" to divorce in Anglo countries.

Since I guess concrete paths to expatriation are becoming a topic here, f.y.i. my ticket overseas was to do legal translation. This is not only one of the easiest but also most lucrative paths to expatriation and you can do it even before getting fluent in another language, since there's such heavy demand for translation of documents and policy reports from the US and UK into the major languages of other (esp. European) countries. And yes, I got started in Sweden before focusing more on Continental law and translation now. And yes, it is true. Although Scandinavia, Benelux and Germany do have more traits in common with the Anglosphere, they are indeed worlds better because they reject the fundamental principles that make marriage and divorce (and now, even dating and harassment) so dangerous to men in the Anglosphere. The only other non-Anglosphere countries that come close are actually Switzerland (which does have some nasty divorces of its own, but still nowhere near the same damage, level or frequency as the Anglosphere) and Israel (which is the only country as bad as the Anglosphere).

I grew up in a traditional religious family myself, my father and mother are among the fairly few American couples who not only stayed married but actually happily so. And even for me and my brothers, my parents have urged us to never get married in the US. They've soon too many friends and neighbors get ruined. Expatriation is the only option. Save your earnings, sell your assets while you can (esp. now that the equity and property markets are at such high) and use your savings to head out of the Anglosphere, A.S.A.P. People here have been giving some good options-- France, Mediterranean or other Catholic/Orthodox countries in southern/central/east Europe or Latin America, Russia/former USSR, non-Anglo Protestant (Germany/Benelux/Scandinavia), most of Asia. But anywhere else will spare you from the literal slavery and vulnerability to asset destitution that greets you upon marriage or childbearing in Anglosphere countries. Don't listen to any idiots who whine stupidly about how "France, Germany, the non-Anglosphere has feminists and #metoo too". Yes, and they also have no power to ruin you in marriage and divorce let alone dating overseas, because the structure of the laws is fundamentally different, the oppositional cutlural nature of the Anglosphere is absent, and the overall culture even in very modern non-Anglo countries like Japan, Korea, Scandinavia, Germany and France still emphasizes traditional feminine responsibilities while honoring the importance of fatherhood. The whiny feminists overseas are powerless there, drowned out by institutions and the 99% of people who value fairness and reason.


Warburton weighs in with unstinting support for Legal Eagle's brilliant monograph, adding a few important insights of his own:


A great deal of wisdom here LE, thank you for sharing. A couple add-ons to your great points, not only do crazy feminists, technocrats, and judges have the legal power to reduce men, families and rational women to destitution in the Anglosphere, they actually do. In terrifying numbers. The risk of financial calamity from marriage and divorce in the English-speaking world, and as you say now from just dating or workplace association, isn't just theoretical. It's real, and very frequent. More than three-fifths of American marriages collapse in divorce, and its' very ugly and expensive there and in Anglo-world in general. We're talking tens or millions of men and families, across the Anglosphere, brought to ruin and financial collapse by divorce or a miserable marriage even it stays together.

You covered most of these bases. I'd also add that divorce is a huge profit center, not just for the divorce lawyers, the courts, judges, even states make big money from divorce settlements. O worked as a paralegal for several years myself while taking night classes,and saw another ugly truth about why child support and spousal support demands in North America are out of control and, unlike outside-the-Anglosphere, have no limit: courts and states get a nice little cut of alimony and child support as "processing costs", at least in many states. So when states don't raise taxes explicitly to meet all their deficits, they go after husbands and fathers with a brutal "secret tax" in family courts to make up the difference.

Plus, a point to add to your great expat advice: Another way for Americans, to get to Europe at least, is to find someone in their family-trees who came from the Old Country. If you have a Greek, Swedish or Italian ancestor somewhere, you're golden, and this is the fastest way to get there. I'm off to Italy later this year myself, hired as a statistician. But my cousin is using her traced roots to get there right along with me next year,and with full citizenship. Use every advantage you can.


Amidst such brilliant debate, I can only add that sexual freedom in the non-Anglosphere West is certainly under threat from the Anglosphere nations (especially the imperialistic United States). The case of Cuba Dave Strecker proves that, in spades. Yet the fact remains that misandrist, puritanical feminism is very much an Anglosphere meme (as I have always argued); and while the struggle for sexual freedom in the Anglosphere is probably lost, the struggle for the non-Anglosphere West is still fluid and contested.


 


Friday, 19 January 2018

‘Anonymous’ and ‘Ripper’ on the Manifest Inferiority of Anglosphere Culture




Foreign Women V Angloblimps

Two posters have weighed in with excellent comments on my previous post. While both ‘Anonymous’ and ‘Ripper’ extol the superiority of French culture and society over their Anglo-Saxon counterparts, Anonymous draws on his personal experience of living as a North American expat in France to lay some hard-won wisdom on us:


I'm one of the "exiles" from the failing and falling down Anglosphere, moved from the US to southwestern France over a decade ago and it's been a blessing in every dimension: career, love life, family, life quality, health, education, food. Everything. I was part of a big movement of Americans and Canadians who made our exit right around the start of the great Recession. The Silicon Valley press never had a precise name for us, but most of us made our fortunes in the software industry, saw writing on the wall and cashed in our stock options before the big crash of the S&P and Nasdaq in 2008.

But after dodging one bullet, we were left pondering why we should risk everything again in the even more dangerous and unpredictable world of US divorce courts. Many of us had seen multimillionaire colleagues reduced to poverty and misery in US family courts after their wives sued for divorce. And slowly but surely we realized the problem was more than a few isolated cases or soothing marriage counselor platitudes. It was in the broader American, and more generally Anglophone culture itself. And in the brainlessness of the courts that give carte blanche to the most parasitic women to leech off their spouses who contribute to society. Around the same time we realized our skills were in demand internationally, and with Web design and software engineering jobs becoming portable thanks to remote platforms, it made sense for us to pack up and move. Most of us still wanted to start families and raise kids, but we realize we'd be putting our fortunes and hard work at risk by doing this in the US. Like you said, prenups don't give you any real protection in Ameican family courts. Only being out of the jurisdiction of these kangaroo courts entirely can do that.

Our friends and colleagues who lost everything were typical of the hypocrisy that's infected all US family law. The men were "working too hard", you see, not enough time for the wife and kids even though the men's hard-earned paychecks were supporting these selfish bitches' ability to shop themselves silly and whine and moan in the first place! American and Anglo grown women with kids are still basically whiny little girls this way, they're never satisfied with their lot no matter how much their husbands slave away for them, even if they work 80 hour weeks in some struggling software company to give them a life of luxury. This is where the Anglosphere goes full stupid. Almost any other country would realize the wives complaints have no basis, that they're acting like spoiled brats and tell them to shove it. But US family courts thanks to feminism, the politically correct "mainstream media" and the collusion of moron white knight cucks, instead indulges this female infantilism from coddled, spoiled brat wives with no appreciation for things like hard work, sacrifice and patience.

Thus the ongoing merry go round of inanity with "community property" awarded to wife too lazy to get off her own ass to work, on top of alimony, full custody and extortionate child support. If that wasn't retarded enough, now the #metoo bandwagon means the same spoiled brat women can pull the same kind of extortionate shit even with men who aren't their spouses in the US and rest of the Anglosphere. Just make a random accusation about made-up shit over a trivial "clumsy courtship" from 20 years ago and voila, a ruined man and a big payout for the attention-seeking whore. All fully encouraged by the Anglosphere and it's white knight cuck army. (Quebec is better but Anglo Canada is even worse, it's now so bad there that a defendant in sexual assault and misconduct cases can't even submit exonerating text messages to show their innocence!)

I get why some men go MGTOW, if they're stuck in the Anglosphere that may be their only alternative. But far better is to do what their ancestors did but in reverse, leave the North American cultural swamp and migrate out of the country, head back to Europe outside the British Isles. In my case I married a sweet French girl and have 2 lovely daughters and a son. Even if things go sour I know I'll keep the heart of what I've earned, child support would be capped, I'd still support my kids but in a way that's reasonable and above all, is for the kids only, not an end-run to indulge the ex-wife's profligacy. The same goes for my fellow colleagues in France and around the continent, even the ones who brought their American or Canadian wives-and-girlfriends with them. It really is true, if you absolutely insist on marrying an Anglo girl, don't to it in an Anglo land!

And best of all the chances of divorcing are a whole lot less since there aren't any lawyer leeches or judge vultures to profit from the divorce shitstorm like in the US. That's what the Napoleonic code and European law in general get you. And our family is stronger because of it. The French, Germans and most other Europeans are even cool with the open relationship and polyamory thing if that's your gig, and the families still do just fine. It's not our thing personally, but people are really about living and let live here. Another reason that the freedom from all the Anglo puritan horseshit is so refreshing.

One last point, don't listen to the morons who babble on about how "France is going majority Muslim!" These idiots are either deluded or full of shit, this kind of propaganda comes from the Gatestone Institute and other neocon rags trying to push the US into more wars in the Middle East, and they're terrified they'll lose their tax base for war if more Americans wise up and say adios to the Anglosphere and its bullshit. The France of 2018 doesn't give a shit about its former colonial empire, the immigrants now come from the old eastern bloc and ironically from North America while the Muslims are being shown the door. Macron's turned out to be a sly political fox, he pretended to be centrist but on culture and demographics he's more hard core conservative than Le Pen could have ever dreamed of being herself, and he's using clever measures to throw out the Muslims. For him it's more a matter of business and attracting tourists and workers to France, but whatever the reason, it works. Oh, and the taxes? I pay much less taxes in France than California or New York, both of which I used to work in. The numbskulls among the reflexive conservatives love to cite the claimed high taxes to Euro-bash. But when you put all the different American taxes on the ledger, including Medi/Soc Security, Americans pay more but get a lot less. There is no sensible reason not to come here, especially if you want to start a family, which we indeed still can and should.


Meanwhile, Ripper focuses his incisive ire on the excesses of the #metoo campaign currently engulfing the Anglosphere. He also contrasts the mature and truly liberated response of classy French actresses with their whining Anglo-American #metoo counterparts; and yearns to drive our anti-Anglo message across the manosphere:


Have to admit I'm taking a measure of perverse pleasure in the ludicrous extremes that the #metoo shitstorm is going with this Aziz Ansari mess. It's damn obvious that he had a bad date that didn't meet the girl's expectations, the kind of thing that happens to anyone and everyone at some point, from Joe Schmoe mechanic up to brad Pitt. And now because of this extreme stupidity and the blood stained minefield that Anglosphere dating has become, this blown out of proportion incident and the ones to come are going to single handedly bring down the Anglosphere. Destroy the Anglosphere, in fact, as in make it non-viable as a working society.

For women, now no man can possibly go and be "woke" enough to read her mind and all her nonverbal signals, so now every single man on a date is a rapist in the making. Every. single. one.

And of course now men are catching on to this utter no win situation in American dating and Anglosphere dating in general, and opting out. Completely. It is way to farking dangerous to even consider the madness of dating from now on. Ever.

So we've reached the point now where girls and women in the Anglosphere are condemned to a future of becoming celibate cat ladies. While men in the Anglosphere will indeed have no option but to go MGTOW, unless of course they move out of it like you guys are recommending. Notable that now, even dating or casual association at the workplace or socially is becoming far too dangerous for men in the Anglosphere. Ironically this will at least spare men the hazard of getting married in the Anglosphere with the, more probable than not, divorce and bankrupting alimony and child support to follow.

So the Anglosphere is officially dead. Or at least on its deathbed. The Anglosphere is collapsing before our eyes. Stick a fork in it. Good riddance.

Any civilization so utterly dumb and self-destructive that it makes it impossible for men and women to have basic sexual relations and childbearing without a gazillion layers of bottled up social acrimony, mixed signals, mindreading and flaring resentments is too damn stupid, lame and pathetic to survive. You made some nice contributions to civilization at one point, Anglosphere, but now you've completely forfeited any right to survive with this absolute bullshit. You guys are right btw, the one solution for Anglosphere men at this point is taking off for distant shores and different cultures. Give me France any day with the majesty and nuance of a superhot bikini model like Laetitia Casta speaking out against the stupidity of this "movement", joined by her graceful, elegant sisters like Catherine Deneuve and the thousands of other French women who've called bullshit. Let's not jut talk about this here to our own choir, let's get onto other forums, Reddit and the chans, write letters to the editor or even newspaper and magazine articles- if you want to have a halfway normal love and working life these days, and real relationships as humans have had for millennia, you need to get out of the Anglosphere. There is no other way. This goes both for men and for the remaining sensible women in the Anglophere. Leave it. This is our era's "Go West, young man". We have to leave the civilizational shithole of the Anglosphere, there is no other way anymore.

To you American c***s and Anglosphere losers in general, the French are showing us what real women, with class and confidence, have understood for eons courtship, love and mating are a dance, a delicate and often misunderstood dance of seduction, and any civilization depends on it for its own survival. The puritanical and Victorian fainting couch f---witness of the Anglosphere was a poison pill for the civilization for the beginning, that seems to have been activated into a death blow for the Anglo world when added to fourth wave feminism, neo-Leftism and the corporate "throw 'em under the bus" attitude of US and Anglosphere "money above people" corporations.

Anglo fools at one point thought their civilization was superior to the French, Germans, Spaniards, Italians and Portuguese. But now with all the Anglo men (and halfway reasonable women) realizing they can find a sane society only in places like France, Germany, Portugal, Italy, Spain and South America and Asia, the Anglosphere is going to see a massive, increasing exodus of millions of its people, leaving only the non-reproducing dregs behind. No sympathy from me, the Anglosphere has slit its own throat.


And there we have it, pure gold from two men who have been there, done it and got the T Shirt. Now gentlemen, off to Reddit and the Chans...


Joe Buck: A man's sorry lot in the misandrist Anglosphere


Thursday, 11 January 2018

Fine Words from the North Wind




Someone called North Wind posted the following comments on my previous post. His insight and candour were so profound that I have reposted his comments in their entirety:

Great content and advice Rookh, I’m an int’l contractor and in the military before that, worked in dozens of countries, and years ago independently came to the same conclusions as you. The Anglosphere and its Stalinist family courts, divorce laws and alimony and child support slavery, based in puritanical Anglo culture and its cuck chivalry tradition combined with cultural Marxism, are uniquely disastrous for civilization and have made marriage and the family untenable in the English-speaking world. As you have, I’ve rejected the parallel but too often misguided claims of at least some corners of the MRA and MGTOW movements; sure they get some of the truth, but many draw incorrect or overgeneralized conclusions when they paint with broad brush and lambast “the West” instead of just “the Anglosphere” where the truly suicidal family law and divorce court practices are in place. It is still important for men to engage women and raise families, and civilization, including Western civilization, must be preserved.

But this must happen outside the Anglosphere, which is on a one-way course to civilizational suicide thanks to the madness of its misandry, crushingly oppressive marriage and divorce laws and the deeply rooted political correctness that makes it impossible to reform them. It isn’t just the indentured servitude and neo-slavery of unchecked child and spousal support obligations forced onto American and Anglosphere men. As we’re also seeing with the #metoo and #timesup media frenzy now, it’s the way Anglosphere Puritanism and dumb white knight chivalry give the most selfish, emotionally unstable women absolute power to ruin the livelihoods of productive men and businesses with inflated or wholly unfounded allegations. The solution is not complete disengagement from starting families or completely “leaving the West” as some MGTOW’s push for, it is ditching specifically the US or other Anglo countries to move to a place outside the Anglosphere and starting families there, especially in the European mainland and other parts of the non-Anglo West. Contrary to at least some MGTOW lore, which has been sadly polluted and distracted by the misinformed anti-Europeanism of neocon and even Breitbart style “conservatism”, 90% of the West is far more commonsensical and supportive of fathers and productive spouses than any of the suicidal nation-states of the Anglosphere. Not perfect, but reasonable enough that it’s worth it to be a father and start families there.

Yes, there is a good deal of foolish PC, feminism and maddening short-sighted policy and culture infecting the non-Anglosphere nations of the West, too. But the vulture-like and predatory style of divorce, the rent seeking and extreme high risk to men's finances, well being and very freedom, is unique to the Anglosphere and especially the United States and Canada, where destitution and prison terms face even high-earning divorced men. There’s a ton of good articles on why this is, and you’ve cited many of them. But the heart of it is the combination of legal precedent in Anglo common-law, plus lingering cultural precedents like Puritanism and the extreme cuck-ish nature of Anglo chivalry, have been absolutely toxic and suicidal for the Anglosphere when joined at the hip to feminism and cultural Marxism.

This is how and why even other Western countries with a lot of the same stupidity with feminism and cultural Marxism, like in Scandinavia, are in heavy contrast to the Anglosphere, surprisingly father-friendly and protective of the assets of a productive working man, forbidding alimony and being commonsensical with limited child support. They’re civil-law countries, and without the self-destructive cognitive dissonance of Anglo Puritanism and cuck chivalry, their social democracy systems and welfare states actually provide a much fairer and more rational environment for both spouses and children. These policies in the non-Anglosphere world remove the asinine profit incentive and high stakes profiteering in US family courts, not only reducing the divorce rate but making sure men don’t get “taken to the cleaners” in divorce as is routine in the US and Anglosphere.

Sweden stands out for this. Even with its own dumb forays into cultural Marxism, Sweden is one of the most pro-husband and pro-father countries in the Western world, with paternity leave, near forbidding of alimony in practice and none of this permanent spousal support BS like in the US. There’s also capped child support, tradition on shared custody and a requirement that any women initiating divorce have to go out and earn a living. Yes Sweden has feminism, but in the absence of Anglo cuck chivalry and Puritanism, divorcing women don’t get the “have your cake and eat it too” bullshit of the Anglosphere where they suddenly become needy dependents after divorce. In Sweden, the feminist credo of being an independent woman means what it sounds like, women after a divorce have to step up and work, without using the ex-husband as a meal-ticket. It’s similar or even better in the rest of Scandinavia, the Catholic countries of the Mediterranean and South America, the German and centrally European countries and especially eastern Europe.

In fact, my absolutely favorite places to get posted for contracts are in France and central and eastern Europe. The ladies there not only hot but sweet and chill about simply being sexy, even though they can be assertive and independent minded they don’t buy into the stupid misandry of the Anglosphere with its #metoo and “take the deadbeat Dad to the cleaners” mind-set. And they’re earnest about starting and maintaining families. Just look at the way Catharine Deneuve and other French women stood up and spoke out against the #metoo Salem witch hunt in the US and Britain recently, going so far as to write a major piece in the French Monde newspaper to support the importance of men being able to hit on women without getting tagged for harassment. This is what too many MGTOW’s and self-claimed “conservatives” don’t get when they blindly trash Sweden and lambast “the West” in general, it’s the Anglosphere, not the rest of the West, which has made both the process and aftermath of divorce so toxic for men or anyone who works and saves for a living, made marriage itself toxic and draining for men while making the workplace itself toxic for even the most innocent male to female interactions.

Some of these self-claimed conservatives will whine about how ditching the Anglosphere means the Muslims, Africans and Latinos will take over, but at this point it doesn’t matter, and it’s too late to stop it anyway. Anglo civilization has slit it’s own throat with this insane Puritanism and misandry. Winston Churchill was sadly deluded with all his triumphalism in the history of English speaking peoples, the civilization may have been sustainable back then before feminism and cultural Marxism infected the media and universities of the Anglosphere. But in combo with the cuck chivalry and Puritanism of the Anglo world, made worse by the profiteering of the common-law system, it means the ugliest decline and fall, and for the Anglo world it’ll be a lot worse than what the Romans saw. The birth rate and marriage rates of the Anglo populations in the Anglosphere keeps plunging farther and farther as the misandry of family courts and the overall culture continues to take it’s toll, so much so that Anglo families can survive only in the non-Anglo world now.

Nothing will save the Anglo countries in their current form. The coming demographic dispossession of the Anglosphere will be painful, probably means a lot of nasty civil wars and society upheavals in the near future. But the crisis and complete re-set may be the only thing to save at least a portion of the Anglosphere by forcing it to look squarely at the suicidal madness of what’s become Anglo culture.


How brilliant is that? I read Isaac Asimov's Foundation Trilogy recently, and it seems as much a prophetic vision of the contemporary Anglosphere - harrassed by imperial overstretch, intellectual decline, internal conflict and gynocentric consumerism - as it is a work of speculative fiction. As North Wind suggests, perhaps the time has come to salvage the most durable aspects of this ailing culture before it implodes completely.